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non spinner asked:
if I could not get myself to think outside of a material world, then I would be working my a** off to extend my life in hopes of being able to live forever…with better technology etc. sounds a little off the wall or logical?
evolved are you talking about the woody allen movie “sleeper”
if I could not get myself to think outside of a material world, then I would be working my a** off to extend my life in hopes of being able to live forever…with better technology etc. sounds a little off the wall or logical?
evolved are you talking about the woody allen movie “sleeper”
I think a bunch of these people are liars. what the guy said about the ice crystals getting into the blood is true..and they can’t seem to stop cells from death..so that’s a bummer. but scientists have been done this with dogs. fyi
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Cryogenics is impossible, they take your head off.
Maybe that’s the difference between me and you. I don’t wish to live forever.
The idea of eternal life is horrifying to me. I do wish I could live a bit longer, though.
Way too expensive - you gotta be rich to afford that.
I am not interested in prolonging my life but live it wisely and to the full extend!
feel sorry for them people when they come back on the day of judgement expecting things to be all good for them
Cryogenics gives me the screaming creeps…
Personally, I am not interested in living forever.
I’ll be back in another life to learn even more. If not, then I’m just glad for all I had while I was here. Forever is a very long time.
Yeah.
I did it with my last cat.
I just want to live a good life now. Not continue this one forever.
Sorry, we don’t get forever, just not in the cards.
I’m not really interested in living forever. A longer life in a young/middle aged body might be ok, but I think that much over 500 or so years would get extremely wearing.
I think the people of the future would defrost a few to learn about history.Other then that we would all be welfare cases only suited for manual labor, they would probably leave the vast majority frozen.
Cryogenics do not work. Once there are ice crystals formed in your capillaries and in your veins you’re basically f*cked. Once the ice crystals melted you’d be torn to shreds, becoming some androgynous blob. Besides, who wants to live forever?
Honey… why do you want to live forever? I don’t. I want a good long life, but I don’t want to live forever, so why would I consider cryogenics?
Let me put this into perspective…
Being over 30 now, I’m starting to notice certain things about life.
I’m noticing the massive changes in technology and mindset since I was just 10 years old. In many ways, these changes are slightly shocking and occasionally hard to adjust to. But life moves on.
I’m noticing the unbelievable and incredible changes in technology. Its often jaw dropping. When I was a little girl I had a Barbie doll that had a button that you pressed on her back and she leaned forward to kiss whatever was in range. It wasn’t as glamorous as it sounds, trust me. It was very primitive but I remember thinking it was so incredibly cool to have something so advanced. And yet, nowadays, my 4 year old nephew is playing computer games and explaining things to me about the computer that I never thought he could know, much less understand better than I.
I’m noticing my anachronism. For the linquisitically challenged, that means I’m starting to notice that I’m getting behind in my knowledge of new things and sometimes its difficult to become adjusted to knew things. For example, I’ve recently had to force myself to learn to use the web cam, how to divide such movies into parts, how to take movies to burn to dvd and to psp. Before, it would have come as something so simple.
And this is only at 31 years old.
Imagine what it will be like in 80 years. The world is changing at an exponential rate. More of the people I love are going to die. The world is going to change. Countries are going to rise and fall.
And you want to live forever? Thats complete insanity. There’d be nothing worse than eternity. To have the ability to die is what makes life so special. It makes you realize that you may not have tomorrow so you need to cherish every moment of today.
To eliminate death… that would be horrible. People need to grow, people need to change. its how society advances. And, as you age, you become stuck in your ways.
There’s a reason that most grandparents can’t figure out how to use a cell phone, you know. Because their minds can’t wrap around the changes since such things didn’t exist when they were young.
An eternity of tomorrows is horrible.
Totally illogical. Living forever is a nightmare. Hopes will be gone.
Live forever? No thank you. This life is good and I value it beyond measure - I have no desire to go on indefinitely and I am not afraid of death, as you obviously are.
Supposing the impossible was to occur, and you found a way of living forever. Don’t you see it as a terrible curse? What about when the universe dies? Eternity in unending, frozen darkness.
Make the most of this life, and don’t waste your time on false hopes.
The idea is absurd. Consider the fact that the earth and everything has changed so drastically within just the past 50 years, technology, medicine - just everything in general, what kind of world would any one be plunged back into? They would never be able to adapt for one thing, and who wants some old body to maneuver around with anyway. The idea is a bad one as well as being absurd.
I can’t remember the name of the movie, but the guy in it is frozen and wakes ups centuries later to find the entire population have the intellectual magnitude of Jerry Falwell and that he is the smartest, by far, person on the planet.. That would be my fear. Best concentrate on ridding society of the morons alive now. Or rather their influence.
Apparently you don’t look forward to being dead and not existing any more than anyone else does. I certainly don’t look forward to it, but if that what’s at the end of the road, that’s all there is at the end of the road and as Porky Pigs always says, “th-th-th-th-that’s all folks!!!”
You are misusing the word “cryogenics” when you mean “cryonics”, a common mistake. Cryogenics is a branch of physics, whereas cryonics is the preserving of humans at cryogenic temperatures for the purpose of future reanimation.
It is not possible to prove whether cryonics will work
or not, but if the structure of the brain is preserved and
future technology continues to advance the capabilities
of molecular medicine to be able to rejuvenate people
and cure diseases with stem cells and biochemical
engineering — then cryonics patients could be
reanimated to a youthful condition. This would not
guarantee immortality any more than a heart transplant
can guarantee immortality. If an asteroid hits the earth
we will all be smashed whether cryonics works or not.
So in that sense, cryonics is more like medicine than
like religion. Two hundred years ago a “natural lifespan”
was living to be 40 or 50, whereas now it is 70 or 80. Now
most religious people are eager to end their lives and
get to heaven at the age of 70 or 80, but if people are
rejuvenated they may decide that 150 years on earth
is not bad. In those terms atheists might be more interested
in cryonics, although it cannot guarantee immortality
and is not really in conflict with religion.
The link on cryonics will explain that as currently practiced,
cryonics need not cause ice damage and cells in the
brain can be preserved quite well at cryogenic temperatures.
It also explains that you do not need to be rich to afford
cryonics if you buy a life insurance policy when you are
not too old for the premiums to be excessive.
Thanks Candice Z for your clarifications and links
Take Care– Shannon Vyff
There are people of all religions signed up for cryonics, they feel that they can do more good for their beliefs if it works. My family, including my three children are signed up. We were interviewed by Barbara Walters even, and many time we get asked about religion. We attend church, I teach religious education. I love life, I’m an environmentalist and I contribute money and volunteer time to many social action projects. I’m signed for cryonics, but I also support along with ending inequality in the world–ending aging. The longer we live, the more we can give back. Cryonics organizations give in taxes, and the jobs they provide–plus you are not polluting with the toxins of embalming or cremation, and your carbon footprint can be covered for just a few cents a year. You can be signed for cryonics for less than a new car (28,000) and it comes out of your life insurance, your relatives need pay nothing–and funds are put into trust to pay for your suspension indefinetelly. I will be leaving 20 times more to my children, than I will to my cryonic suspension. I do a lot of volunteer work now with helping new moms, along with my life extension advocacy. I like to explain how cryonics can be done, and how it seems to be common sense, that if it works great, if not it doesn’t matter to you much. Also, if you don’t like how things have turned out in the future you don’t have to stay around–same option to opt out that you have today ;-). I live a balanced life though is the point, and I stumbled upon this and felt the need to share–I was looking up something after having a conversation with a friend that is a cryonicist. A person recently passed away, still young–an accident, and was preserved–I feel for their family–even if cryonics works someday, the loss is very real right now. Anyway, good luck to us all